GM, PLUSAs. There's hot coffee in the pantry and iced coffee in the frig. When cobble deigns to grace us with her presence, there will be fresh baked Morning Glory muffins.
Hey, DCB. Good to see you here. Turks and Caicos sounds great right about now. No worries, there will be another big CobbleSnaps gathering later this Summer.
Let’s look at a few example of the largesse that has marked Greek government in recent years. These are small example, but they are indeed exemplary. For example, Greek members of the Parliament are all given their own private cars during their tenure in office. German MP’s don’t get that; French MPs don’t get that; Belgian and Luxembourger MPs don’t get that… but Greek MPs do.
Or Greek high school students? They all know that they can go to university and have the government pay the entire expense. Oh, and the average Greek university student does not finish her education in the normal four years, but instead spends an average of seven years at university, which taxpayers across Europe are now expected to pay for! British students pay £9,000/annum for their educations, and British employees pay large taxes, some of which goes to the Greek education programs as a part of the UK’s share of the EU's budget. Oh, and Greek farmers, we are told, have the highest levels of price supports for their products, paid for of course with the taxes extracted from Belgians, and Italians, and Spanish taxpayers. The former may be joyous; the latter, not so much!
Good morning guys. The Beach is 80% Operational. Please get a log in and start posting. Guest can lurk but, I have to put up a perimeter to keep the spammer out. I was up until 3:30 in the morning getting the site working. Make frownstoner.com your new home
Actually the saddest pasrt of the Greek situation is that they are no longer on the Drachma. If they were, the currency would have dropped like a rock allowing foreigners to come in and buy up all the nice stuff in Mykonos, like many of us did in Thailand in 1997.
any more talks of the EURO replacing USD as reserve currency??? what a joke that those commentaries/articles were out back 1-2 yrs ago. USD might have it's issues but EURO aint no beauty queen and if one is going to replace the USD, replacement better be GOOD vs simply being less worst
We had a nice time last night. Best place for a wake is an Irish bar. Nice choice, jackal. Yesterday I wasted the whole day, where I had a list of things I was supposed to accomplish. I guess I am going to have to work pretty hard today to make up.
Greece has had a culture of entitlement for a long time. I forget the retirement age but it WAS in the 50s. I think extending the retirement age slightly (62?) was one of the things which sent Greeks to the streets demonstrating.
I did shots with Lech last night. Ok, it was only one shot and I was sitting at the other end of the table, and I sipped it very slowly, but he bought it and I drank it, is that close enough?!
I'm with Pete and that includes visiting relatives. It's time away from work which is good but it's not a vacation. But I guess after all that mid-yr review, 360 feedback forms, career planning chats,.... any time away from work does feel like a nice vacation
In fact, I do appear up there as a blank avatar and I can click on it and "SIGN OUT" appears so I am signed in. I still have to do the Comment as: dropdown
I never thought Jon was a great guy but an OK dude. I'm still of that opinion. He made an understandable decision via dumb tact and then followed it up with dumb & dumber logic. He took a downgrade in my eyes but hasn't dropped to a "dick" yet
I think where he deludes himself is in the thinking that getting the r rid of the OT will bring an onslaught of new posters. Ridiculous. And that letter he posted at the end of the day was asinine. The person writes that they've talked to "countless" other who have left. REALLY??? How did they find each other????
I could care less if he has (and yes, he probably has). Blaming the OT and us by extension for his web site's problems was not only a shi tty thing to do, but shows how out of touch with reality he is. Talk about toxic- he should look in a mirror.
My two cents on Mr. B is I have no hard feelings towards him (no hetero). It's his site and he can run his business however he sees fit. It doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything he's done, but I respect his decisions. That's all I'll say on that topic. I do agree that I'm skeptical that eliminating the OT will boost readership and comments.
Good Morning Cobble. Look guys I'm under Medication. Just get a login over frownstoner.com that all Anybody can join I mean everybody. Brownstoner is dead
Yep. I agree with what dave and bxgrl both said. Doubtful our absence will lead to an onslaught of posting lurkers, and we are hardly the cause of the site's myriad problems. If anything, we all tried to help him fix the site's problems - I even had one of his techies at my house - but he ignored the problems we told him about and the suggestions we made.
Hey SDFL, I'm not ignoring you. I'm not going back to the beach. You blew it up too many times. You're just too invested in how much people post. It's way too stressful.
You are totally welcome here. Open door. I even sent you an invitation to make you a contributor so you can post threads and stuff.
I have a pretty good idea who wrote that letter from the overwrought prose. If you want to do an interesting exercise, sort the "last OT" by most liked, and see who clicked "like" when Mr. B. was trashing the PLUSA's. There is one long-time poster who is there. I also found the initial reactions of some other people interesting. Let's just say that I think there was a group of like-minded individuals who were supportive of the decision to kill the OT AND trash the PLUSA's as a parting shot.
I wish Mr. B hadn't trashed us like that. I just don't get how he thinks we're just going to come back today and post in other threads now? It is pretty delusional. He's now guilty of some of the behavior he accused us of.
After reading the OT last night I've decided that Mr. B's preferred demographic are nervous nellies who need to pop a xanax after posting for fear of differing thoughts.
M4L, I can view the comments and blog at The Death Star using Firefox but I have to comment using my Blackberry. Scripts are banned here so I can't comment on most sites.
No pun intended on the "fairy dust"? Amazing that the only time I didn't do an Irish Exit was at an Irish Bar. Agree re: great venue! Those big shots and tall PBRs were very curiosity-inducing. Good thing Mrs C was there to keep me on the "straight" and narrow.
ROFL.... the death of the OT thread has disappeard from Brownstoner.
Like I said, great businessmen have a gift for recognizing their raw material for what it is and working with it. Mr B is trying to change his raw material. He wants his red clay to be blue, so he's throwing away the red clay. After a while he's going to realize there ain't no blue clay appearing and maybe he should have made the best of the red clay he had. Dildo.
You know what guys. This is what I'm gonna do. You can take a vote on coming to The Beach. You can discuss it among yourselves Your Meeting is on Aug 4 right? You have until then to make a decision. If you don't want to deal with me or the Beach just be a man or woman about it. At this point I see what going on Later
Some people have gentle attitudes about what happened yesterday and I guess that is a good thing. It wasn't nuclear war after all. As I thought about it later, I concluded that it was not ending the OT that bothered me. It would be a loss however you slice it, but that it was the way he did it that steamed me. First, my reaction was based on the punitive, nasty, commentary and the trashing of people who helped him and supported him and his site for years. So ok, we'll live. Not the end of the world. But the other thing was that it also just didn't make sense. It seemed as the day wore on that his frustration was that the rest of the site (20 articles a day) was languishing with little commentary. And he was frustrated with the fact that the OT was increasingly large while the rest of the site shrinking. And he is frustrated with the complaints, the bad technology, and perhaps the shrinking of ad revenues based on non OT activity on the site. He lived through a very tough period post crash and it hasn't been an easy business. I think however that assuming that eliminating the OT (and particularly in the way he did -- guaranteed to alienate people) would make the rest of the site more robust.....well, that's just crazy.
Delepp, BK Prime priced me out so dragging my ass back over the bridge to the ISLAND. I don't expect to move in a blink as everything we've looked at required lots of renov and you know how long renovations can take.
Not surprised the End of the OT Thread is gone. Hopefully it's cached somewhere since I missed a lot of it. I thought he might just delete all the comments but keep his write-up. I think he let the commenting continue for the day so other threads wouldn't be hijacked.
Here's an excerpt from that email that Mr. B posted late yesterday to which dave and benson were referring (too long to post the whole thing):
"With the rise of handles, a "Cheers" subset did, indeed, form here. It emerged under the umbrella of the OT. Regardless of its claims of inclusiveness and welcome mats, the truth is that the OT quickly developed as a clearly distinct "club" within the larger Brownstoner community -- one clearly defined by its own chief players, language, and community norms. Further, what started off as a reasonable "law and order" discussion tactic, eventually gave way to a rather "lawless" discussion arena that, IMO, has now really impacted the entire site. The fact that one's engagement with the OT is totally a matter of choice is irrelevant. Fact is, it's been damn near impossible to ignore the presence of the OT since some of the most foul posting behaviors of a few OT regulars has increasingly spread beyond the parameters of the OT to the entire site.
As I say this, I have to also say that "some of my best B'stoner friends are OT regulars." As much as I understand and respect their sense of loss, I still find today's management decision to be a good and healthy one.
Do take heart in knowing (as you likely do) that there are many, many more of us oldtimers, newcomers and lurkers out here who welcome this decision. In fact, I'm betting that those who agree with this change well outnumber the small but very vocal group of repeat posters who are now predicting the fall of Brownstoner (and threatening to depart in order to ensure it). Don't believe that hype. Instead, based on the countless conversations I've had with so many former active members who have since ratcheted down to lurkerdom or just don't visit here anymore, I'm betting that today's step --though a tough one --will ultimately prove to be one that is smart."
I don't know any hardcore WASPs that talk like that. NONE. None that parade on about their whale print pants, etc. It just doesn't happen. It's his made up perception of them. And believe me when I tell you that I know some pretty intense WASPy WASPs!
that last letter mr b posted last night was most def from 11217 same writing style and exaggeration about how "countless" friends/people feel the same way he does
no biff- not too many. maybe 10 comments for all the articles.But Jon is now actually posting and responding in the threads. So imagine how it would have went if he had started doing that, and increasing the kinds of interesting articles he seems to be putting up now, without blowing up the OT. Articles we would have been commenting on.
I agree with you dona- it was how he did it.
And dibs- *SOB*- thank you for calling me a moron this morning. I missed that so much *sniff*
I won't NOT go to the stoner site out of spite. I'll browse it as it still has some informative value - mainly the forum. but will certainly not comment at all.
I posted my answer to that on the OT thread yesterday. I still will never understand why people bitched so much about the OT. YOu had a choice- you could read it or not, post there or not. It was forced on no one.
I think BHI made up an uber-WASP persona, which he could use to parody those parts of WASPdom that he finds uncomfortable. I enjoyed his posts a lot, they were extremely witty and self deprecating. Underneath it all were some astute social criticisms.
LMFAO @ "lawless" what a toolbag. it's the internet. there ARE NO LAWS ON THE FUCKING INTERNET! i hope a tornado comes and swoops up his precious little bedbug and fartisinal food market.
I had the preppiest / waspiest experience ever on Tuesday. I went to the Brooks Bros flagship store on Madison and 44th. Every guy in there looked like he woke up in Greenwich, played tennis, got just enough of a tan, and would suck his own dick in exchange for tickets to the Yale / Harvard game.
Oh and while I was there I got a couple of suits that will go well with brown shoes. I've never worn brown shoes with a suit before. It's a very different look.
MM, do you not think BHI is the sockpuppet of a regular post, one who gleefully enjoyed the demise of the OT?
Interestingly, he enjoyed posting with us so much for the past week, and yet he's not here but posting over there still. And, it's not like I didn't post the link to the pub a dozen times yesterday.
I've been into BBs, it's OVERWHELMING. I can't take it in there. It's like the world has been literally white-washed of any culture whatsoever except for white people as lech described. A lot of country clubs I've been to are like that, too. It makes me uncomfortable, I can't relax in those places.
i had to pick something up for my boss at that brooks brothers store on 44th. that store made me feel extremely poor and extremely grimey and i felt like they were following me around thinking i was gonna shoplift.
The only really disappointing part of the OT episode is that it will be difficult to recruit new PLUSAs over here. While I think it’s wonderful that we have another place to play, part of the fun in the OT was when newbies arrived and joined in. And that was facilitated by having a “professional” albeit imperfect blog with good readership, a brand name, a main page with varied stories, a Forum, etc. etc. Not sure how we get new blood over here. Thoughts?
It's at the corner of 55th & Madison. They have a few other shops but not sure where
They are over $100. You can't get nice shoes for under $100. Anyone with any class will know that they are cheap shoes. Besides, you can resole them almost an unlimited number of times.
I bought stuff in BB at one time in my life, long long ago. It is so lacking in style for women's clothes, it is pathetic. People who wear that stuff seem like cartoon characters. It never changes. For men's clothes, that's the point.
I just found where I can look up the stats on pageviews and stuff. There have been 2 pageviews from Turkey and one each from the Phillipines and Pakistan.
Great point biff- this is a blog after all. Lech, and others he gives permission, can post threads. But it is also a great point that you made about the fun of newbies. So many people seem to have felt the OT was a closed club and that was the furthest thing from the truth.
It seems that you have not been to BB for a long time. While there are certainly the arch-typical WASP's that Lech describes, about 50% of their sales people these days are non-white. I buy most of my clothes there, and speak from experience.
DH, other than the obsession with Brooklyn Heights, BHI really isn't ET's style IMO. Besides, I've said it before, though I was proven wrong, but I really believe her last blogicide was her last blogicide.
Chicken- you need to change your blog permissions. Check your dashboard.
CGar- I take full responsibility for the lack of tiaras. I worked my fingers to the bone creating wire works of heart and my shop was overwhelmed. Was I thanked? Did I get drinks? Did someone give me a satin sash for my evening gown? No.
Welcome PLUSA Lover! cobble, finish unpacking your damn desk already so you can give PL a manual, and bxgrl, for God sake, unpack the supply closet and give PL a tiara. Sheesh.
Benson, you're thinking of an older guy who walks like his right leg hurts him? Wicked preppy. Also one of the best suit salesmen I've ever had. Immediatley tells you which of their suit lines will fit your frame well, and he's totally spot on.
GM, PLUSAs. There's hot coffee in the pantry and iced coffee in the frig. When cobble deigns to grace us with her presence, there will be fresh baked Morning Glory muffins.
ReplyDeleteSo how was the wake? So sorry I missed it.
ReplyDeleteThat was a nice gathering last night. I really like the place jackal picked.
ReplyDeleteFun, as wakes go. Jameson shots all around. Looking like a great turnout for next week's End of the OT Party at Montero's.
ReplyDeleteScott, how late did you guys stay?
ReplyDeleteCGar, we left not too long after you, probably 9:30 or so.
ReplyDeleteSorry I missed it.
ReplyDeleteSince I logged in through Google A/C, why isn't my name & avatar showing?
GM, dave. I don't know. I uploaded an avatar, too, but not fully sure how blogspot works yet.
ReplyDeleteGood morning Dave, CGar et al.
ReplyDeleteI will be in the Turks and Caicos Islands next week on vacation, so will have to miss Montero's.
Good to know that we continue on.
DeadCatBounce
Yeah, I have to keep selecting "Name/URL" to post
ReplyDeleteI don't think blogger/blogspot supports avatars in posting.
ReplyDeleteIf you have a google account, you can use that to post with.
ReplyDeleteThe first time you use it, it automatically sets up a blogger account.
Test of display name - I think you can make it different than your google account name
ReplyDeleteHey, DCB. Good to see you here. Turks and Caicos sounds great right about now. No worries, there will be another big CobbleSnaps gathering later this Summer.
ReplyDeleteFirst political rant of the New World Order:
ReplyDeleteLet’s look at a few example of the largesse that has marked Greek government in recent years. These are small example, but they are indeed exemplary. For example, Greek members of the Parliament are all given their own private cars during their tenure in office.
German MP’s don’t get that; French MPs don’t get that; Belgian and Luxembourger MPs don’t get that… but Greek MPs do.
Or Greek high school students? They all know that they can go to university and have the government pay the entire expense. Oh, and the average Greek university student does not finish her education in the normal four
years, but instead spends an average of seven years at university, which taxpayers across Europe are now expected to pay for! British students pay £9,000/annum for their educations, and British employees pay large taxes, some of which goes to the Greek education programs as a part of the UK’s share of the EU's budget.
Oh, and Greek farmers, we are told, have the highest levels of price supports for their products, paid for of course with the taxes extracted from Belgians, and Italians, and Spanish taxpayers. The former may be joyous; the latter, not so much!
I registered with google and filled in a profile but it doesn't seem to matter
ReplyDeleteGreek entitlements seem way overboard by any standards.
ReplyDeleteAs a general rule, I don't think that any government hand outs or subsidies should be given without some sort of limits and strings attached.
Good morning guys.
ReplyDeleteThe Beach is 80% Operational.
Please get a log in and start posting.
Guest can lurk but, I have to put up a perimeter to keep the spammer out.
I was up until 3:30 in the morning getting the site working.
Make frownstoner.com your new home
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Actually the saddest pasrt of the Greek situation is that they are no longer on the Drachma. If they were, the currency would have dropped like a rock allowing foreigners to come in and buy up all the nice stuff in Mykonos, like many of us did in Thailand in 1997.
ReplyDeleteAny speculation on countries pulling out of the Euro?
ReplyDeleteDIBS, do you think the Tea Party members will fall back in line soon as ordered by GOP leadership or they going to be PIA's till the last minute?
ReplyDeleteWon't happen.
ReplyDeleteThat was a response about the Euro. Tea Party members will fall in line.
ReplyDeleteany more talks of the EURO replacing USD as reserve currency??? what a joke that those commentaries/articles were out back 1-2 yrs ago. USD might have it's issues but EURO aint no beauty queen and if one is going to replace the USD, replacement better be GOOD vs simply being less worst
ReplyDeleteRead this link about germany's new position in Europe. it outlines the recent development. It doesn't make any sense for anyone to leave....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100315_germany_mitteleuropa_redux
When the debt deal gets done, I say the EUR breaks 1.400 and the Yen drops
ReplyDeleteis it just me or the recent job cuts across the banks recently sound a little bigger than I expected?
ReplyDeleteJobless claims fell to 398k!!!
ReplyDeleteDo all of you have to keep using the dropdown to post a comment every time you post????
ReplyDeleteDIBS, looks the Brits might seriously consider some American Easing strategies vs their current austerity route.
ReplyDeleteWe had a nice time last night. Best place for a wake is an Irish bar. Nice choice, jackal. Yesterday I wasted the whole day, where I had a list of things I was supposed to accomplish. I guess I am going to have to work pretty hard today to make up.
ReplyDeleteGreece has had a culture of entitlement for a long time. I forget the retirement age but it WAS in the 50s. I think extending the retirement age slightly (62?) was one of the things which sent Greeks to the streets demonstrating.
DIBS, you mean that box to the right of "Comment as:"? if so, yes
ReplyDeleteI did comment as : google account, went through the blogger set up process, and ever since then I have not had to use the drop downboxes
ReplyDeleteyes
ReplyDeleteLike I said before The Beach is up and running
ReplyDeletefrownstoner.com
come by and check it out
The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
I have a ton of work to do today, including finishing the writing of employee mid year reviews before I give them later this afternoon.
ReplyDeleteTomorrow, I start of week of vacation. My sister and her two children are coming to visit us, and I get to play tour guide.
Well I went through all that too and my name is even listed on the upper right there but I still need to
ReplyDeleteJust another example of non user friendly technology.
ReplyDeletesup guys?
ReplyDeletedh
having relatives with kids visiting doesn't sound like vacation to me.
ReplyDeleteDH,
ReplyDeletelet me beat you to it,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
DIBS, on your screen does "Sign In" appear in the upper right corner?
ReplyDeleteIf so, click it and input your email address and pass word.
GM, PLUSAs!
ReplyDeleteMuffins are on the counter, help yourselves!
I did shots with Lech last night. Ok, it was only one shot and I was sitting at the other end of the table, and I sipped it very slowly, but he bought it and I drank it, is that close enough?!
Sign In does not appear up there
ReplyDeleteI'm with Pete and that includes visiting relatives. It's time away from work which is good but it's not a vacation. But I guess after all that mid-yr review, 360 feedback forms, career planning chats,.... any time away from work does feel like a nice vacation
ReplyDeleteAND you can upload a pix with blogger
ReplyDeletedidn't wanna say anything yesterday, but mr b is a delusional pussy.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I do appear up there as a blank avatar and I can click on it and "SIGN OUT" appears so I am signed in. I still have to do the Comment as: dropdown
ReplyDeletePete, still upstate??
ReplyDeleteDIBS, scroll up.
ReplyDeleteThere should be a tool bar.
"Create Blog" and "Sign In" in the upper right corner.
The only relatives I ecer have visit are my childless brother and sister in law and thay are pretty good drinkers
ReplyDeleteupstate now
ReplyDeleteDH, it's not your trait to not speak up yesterday. didn't want to pile on onto the already decent size pile-on?
ReplyDeletecobble left out the part about kissing jackal.
ReplyDeleteYep. DH nailed it.
ReplyDeletethere was really nothing that needed to be said.
ReplyDeleteBrooklynHeightsIvy has changed his login name and profile
ReplyDeleteCobble kissed jackal????
ReplyDeleteCGar, re: Kissing lech —
ReplyDeleteYes, I did. Twice. Hello and Good-bye. As I said last night, I don't hate lech! I just want to beat him senseless sometimes! : P
The Beach is up
ReplyDeletefrownstoner.com
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
GM, What. : )
ReplyDeleteI never thought Jon was a great guy but an OK dude. I'm still of that opinion. He made an understandable decision via dumb tact and then followed it up with dumb & dumber logic. He took a downgrade in my eyes but hasn't dropped to a "dick" yet
ReplyDeletecobble- did you bring muffins?
ReplyDeleteRaise your hand if you think Mr B has popped over here to read the comments.
ReplyDelete*raises hand*
- Biff
i'm gonna be scarce around here for a bit guys.
ReplyDeleteBtw, it takes awhile for me to post using BB, which will explain if I don't respond or post often/timely.
ReplyDelete- Biff
I think where he deludes himself is in the thinking that getting the r rid of the OT will bring an onslaught of new posters. Ridiculous. And that letter he posted at the end of the day was asinine. The person writes that they've talked to "countless" other who have left. REALLY??? How did they find each other????
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of crap.
I could care less if he has (and yes, he probably has). Blaming the OT and us by extension for his web site's problems was not only a shi tty thing to do, but shows how out of touch with reality he is. Talk about toxic- he should look in a mirror.
ReplyDelete*Raises Hand*
ReplyDeletebiggest problem with end of OT and this blog is that you are all being nice to each other.
ReplyDeleteCould you please stop that! Does not seem natural.
"Raise your hand if you think Mr B has popped over here to read the comments."
ReplyDelete*raising hand*
Good morning people!
Can't see it, could you raise it higher?
ReplyDeleteMy two cents on Mr. B is I have no hard feelings towards him (no hetero). It's his site and he can run his business however he sees fit. It doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything he's done, but I respect his decisions. That's all I'll say on that topic. I do agree that I'm skeptical that eliminating the OT will boost readership and comments.
ReplyDelete- Biff
seems like BHI is only one posting over 'there' this morning.
ReplyDeletebxgrl is a MORON
ReplyDelete"Could you please stop that! Does not seem natural."
ReplyDeletePete you no good dog hating lazy entitled retired union "worker" good for nothing
Good Morning Cobble.
ReplyDeleteLook guys I'm under Medication.
Just get a login over frownstoner.com
that all
Anybody can join I mean everybody.
Brownstoner is dead
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
I'm wearing pasties again today. Damn it hurt to shower.
ReplyDeleteYep. I agree with what dave and bxgrl both said. Doubtful our absence will lead to an onslaught of posting lurkers, and we are hardly the cause of the site's myriad problems. If anything, we all tried to help him fix the site's problems - I even had one of his techies at my house - but he ignored the problems we told him about and the suggestions we made.
ReplyDeleteHey SDFL, I'm not ignoring you. I'm not going back to the beach. You blew it up too many times. You're just too invested in how much people post. It's way too stressful.
ReplyDeleteYou are totally welcome here. Open door. I even sent you an invitation to make you a contributor so you can post threads and stuff.
But I'm not going back to the beach. Sorry.
careful - you could end up with 1 inch long nipples.
ReplyDelete"seems like BHI is only one posting over 'there' this morning"
ReplyDeleteProbably because "BHI" is the only one who's positively gleeful about the end of the OT and the exile of the PLUSAs.
jackal, you'd best be careful about what you post, lest you further titillate Slopey.
ReplyDeleteI have a pretty good idea who wrote that letter from the overwrought prose. If you want to do an interesting exercise, sort the "last OT" by most liked, and see who clicked "like" when Mr. B. was trashing the PLUSA's. There is one long-time poster who is there. I also found the initial reactions of some other people interesting. Let's just say that I think there was a group of like-minded individuals who were supportive of the decision to kill the OT AND trash the PLUSA's as a parting shot.
ReplyDeletelech is apologizing to someone? the world is coming to an end.
ReplyDelete"careful - you could end up with 1 inch long nipples."
ReplyDeleteDoes the same principle work for.... you know what I'll ask this question after 4 pm when raunch hour starts.
who benson?
ReplyDeleteDIBS;
ReplyDeleteBrooklynista. You connect the rest of the dots.
"Bension" - is that like Benson after about 10 shots of Jameson?
ReplyDeleteI will now forever have the vision in my head, everytime I see jackal that he has a 1" penis.
ReplyDeleteWhat! Hope the meds help! Glad you're here!
ReplyDelete*raises hand* I'm sure Mr. B has toddled over here to see what's said.
BHI is a fraud.
HEY JACKAL HERE"S SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THE "VARJAY"PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cdfindustries.com/images/2005_0410Image0002.JPG
USE THAT TO WASH THE FUCKING SAND OUT OF YOUR VAGINA!!!!!!!!!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Biff, this too is blogged by your work firewall?
ReplyDeleteI wish Mr. B hadn't trashed us like that. I just don't get how he thinks we're just going to come back today and post in other threads now? It is pretty delusional. He's now guilty of some of the behavior he accused us of.
ReplyDeleteBenson, who is it? It's impossible for me to look it up.
ReplyDelete- Biff
Benson...Tuesday night I watched "Goodfellas"
ReplyDeletecobble, how did you get your avatar to work? I can't even seem to get logged in
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the OT last night I've decided that Mr. B's preferred demographic are nervous nellies who need to pop a xanax after posting for fear of differing thoughts.
ReplyDeleteDeLepp
DIBS;
ReplyDeleteWe need to give Mr. B the "Joe Pesci shoe treatment"!
Later folks!
i wasn't able to find the place, and i did not have my phone!!
ReplyDelete*rob*
Hey Delepp.
ReplyDeleteI'm still shocked that you tried to pimp out A when Biff started getting curious after 2 shots of jameson and 3 tall boys.
avatar test
ReplyDeleteM4L, I can view the comments and blog at The Death Star using Firefox but I have to comment using my Blackberry. Scripts are banned here so I can't comment on most sites.
ReplyDeleteFUCK SHIT COCK FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT
ReplyDeleteLOOK THE FUCKING BEACH HAD ONLY TWO FUCKING PEOPLE POSTING OVER THERE!!!! ME AND YOU. IT WAS LIKE A "CASTAWAY HOMO ROUND UP"!!!!!!!
I SPEND MY FUCKING TIME AND MONEY TRYING TO GET MOTHERFUCKERS TO POST OVER THERE (THE BEACH)
BROWNSTONER HAS KICKED ALL YOUR RETARDED FUCKERS TO THE CURB!!!!
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE YOU OWN SPACE IN THE WORLD ASSHOLE!!!!
IF NO ONE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT AGAIN I WILL BLOW THE SHIT UP FOR THE :THE LAST FUCKING TIME!!
THEN EACH AND EVERY ONE YOU YOU CA GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!
I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS BROWNSTONER HAS BLOW HIS OWN HEAD OFF!!
THE WAR IS OVER OVER OVER!!!!!
GET IT?????????????
THE WHAT
SOMEDAY PEOPLE WILL WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!
Delepp, hello there. long time no see (on the NET or in the hood).
ReplyDeletelech,
ReplyDeleteSince it was an irish wake at a irish bar, I couldn't help my inner leprechaun in tossing the fairy dust.
Great venue
DeLepp
DeLepp was pimping Andy out to me even before he got there.
ReplyDeletem4l, andy asked if you were still living in hood the other day, I said you're doing the jefferson's thing and moving on up.
ReplyDeletedelepp
No pun intended on the "fairy dust"? Amazing that the only time I didn't do an Irish Exit was at an Irish Bar. Agree re: great venue! Those big shots and tall PBRs were very curiosity-inducing. Good thing Mrs C was there to keep me on the "straight" and narrow.
ReplyDelete- Biff
ROFL.... the death of the OT thread has disappeard from Brownstoner.
ReplyDeleteLike I said, great businessmen have a gift for recognizing their raw material for what it is and working with it. Mr B is trying to change his raw material. He wants his red clay to be blue, so he's throwing away the red clay. After a while he's going to realize there ain't no blue clay appearing and maybe he should have made the best of the red clay he had. Dildo.
A "CASTAWAY HOMO ROUND UP"!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThat would be me he's referring to.
You know what guys.
ReplyDeleteThis is what I'm gonna do.
You can take a vote on coming to The Beach.
You can discuss it among yourselves
Your Meeting is on Aug 4 right?
You have until then to make a decision.
If you don't want to deal with me or the Beach just be a man or woman about it.
At this point I see what going on
Later
The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Some people have gentle attitudes about what happened yesterday and I guess that is a good thing. It wasn't nuclear war after all. As I thought about it later, I concluded that it was not ending the OT that bothered me. It would be a loss however you slice it, but that it was the way he did it that steamed me. First, my reaction was based on the punitive, nasty, commentary and the trashing of people who helped him and supported him and his site for years. So ok, we'll live. Not the end of the world. But the other thing was that it also just didn't make sense. It seemed as the day wore on that his frustration was that the rest of the site (20 articles a day) was languishing with little commentary. And he was frustrated with the fact that the OT was increasingly large while the rest of the site shrinking. And he is frustrated with the complaints, the bad technology, and perhaps the shrinking of ad revenues based on non OT activity on the site. He lived through a very tough period post crash and it hasn't been an easy business. I think however that assuming that eliminating the OT (and particularly in the way he did -- guaranteed to alienate people) would make the rest of the site more robust.....well, that's just crazy.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you all liked the venue. I've spent many late nights there playing illegal poker with Irish illegals.
ReplyDeleteBHI will soon tire of talking to himself!!!!
ReplyDeleteA "CASTAWAY HOMO ROUND UP"!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThat would be me he's referring to.
no Dave, I was making a point
Me
Ended
DIBS, I have a gmail account - my cobblehiller address. So I just logged in using that.
ReplyDeleteWhen did he pull the "Last OT Thread"???? I'm wondering if he pulled it after my comments above.
ReplyDeleteWhich I must have attached the cobbles to when we all went over to Curbed that day.
ReplyDeleteDelepp, BK Prime priced me out so dragging my ass back over the bridge to the ISLAND. I don't expect to move in a blink as everything we've looked at required lots of renov and you know how long renovations can take.
ReplyDeleteWell, it doesn't work with Google.
ReplyDeleteis BHI a for real person? if he's for real that's scary.
ReplyDelete*rob*
It's still there, benson, it's just on the next page. Go click on "older posts", you dope! : P
ReplyDeleteI can still see the "End of the OT thread" on page 2.
ReplyDeleteLooks to be more technical issues.
Not surprised the End of the OT Thread is gone. Hopefully it's cached somewhere since I missed a lot of it. I thought he might just delete all the comments but keep his write-up. I think he let the commenting continue for the day so other threads wouldn't be hijacked.
ReplyDeleteAre there lots of posts over there today?
- Biff
DIBS, Do you have a gmail account? If not, set one up, then when you use "google account" enter that login/pw, and you'll be in.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty dead, but that is not all too uncommon at this time of morning.
ReplyDeleteBHI does seem like a caricature, but people like that do exist.
Cobble;
ReplyDeleteI was relying on Lech's report. I will not visit the site from today on. I'm not going to support someone who trashed us as a parting shot.
And now, I really gotta go.
I'm happy to see the plusa are alive and kicking somewhere else.
ReplyDelete-plusa lover
Yes, it's still there on the next page. I guess I am surprised.
ReplyDelete- Biff
End of the OT Thread is not gone, guys. It's just on the 2nd page of the home page.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2011/07/the-end-of-the-open-thread/#disqus_thread
It's there, Benson....
ReplyDeleteHere's an excerpt from that email that Mr. B posted late yesterday to which dave and benson were referring (too long to post the whole thing):
ReplyDelete"With the rise of handles, a "Cheers" subset did, indeed, form here. It emerged under the umbrella of the OT. Regardless of its claims of inclusiveness and welcome mats, the truth is that the OT quickly developed as a clearly distinct "club" within the larger Brownstoner community -- one clearly defined by its own chief players, language, and community norms. Further, what started off as a reasonable "law and order" discussion tactic, eventually gave way to a rather "lawless" discussion arena that, IMO, has now really impacted the entire site. The fact that one's engagement with the OT is totally a matter of choice is irrelevant. Fact is, it's been damn near impossible to ignore the presence of the OT since some of the most foul posting behaviors of a few OT regulars has increasingly spread beyond the parameters of the OT to the entire site.
As I say this, I have to also say that "some of my best B'stoner friends are OT regulars." As much as I understand and respect their sense of loss, I still find today's management decision to be a good and healthy one.
Do take heart in knowing (as you likely do) that there are many, many more of us oldtimers, newcomers and lurkers out here who welcome this decision. In fact, I'm betting that those who agree with this change well outnumber the small but very vocal group of repeat posters who are now predicting the fall of Brownstoner (and threatening to depart in order to ensure it). Don't believe that hype. Instead, based on the countless conversations I've had with so many former active members who have since ratcheted down to lurkerdom or just don't visit here anymore, I'm betting that today's step --though a tough one --will ultimately prove to be one that is smart."
I don't know any hardcore WASPs that talk like that. NONE. None that parade on about their whale print pants, etc. It just doesn't happen. It's his made up perception of them. And believe me when I tell you that I know some pretty intense WASPy WASPs!
ReplyDelete"some of my best B'stoner friends are OT regulars."
ReplyDelete???
that last letter mr b posted last night was most def from 11217 same writing style and exaggeration about how "countless" friends/people feel the same way he does
ReplyDeleteoh sorry 10:21 is dh
ReplyDeleteno biff- not too many. maybe 10 comments for all the articles.But Jon is now actually posting and responding in the threads. So imagine how it would have went if he had started doing that, and increasing the kinds of interesting articles he seems to be putting up now, without blowing up the OT. Articles we would have been commenting on.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you dona- it was how he did it.
And dibs- *SOB*- thank you for calling me a moron this morning. I missed that so much *sniff*
I won't NOT go to the stoner site out of spite. I'll browse it as it still has some informative value - mainly the forum. but will certainly not comment at all.
ReplyDeleteCreated gmail account
ReplyDeleteComment as: Google Account
Still doesn't work
What happened to 11217?
ReplyDeleteI posted my answer to that on the OT thread yesterday. I still will never understand why people bitched so much about the OT. YOu had a choice- you could read it or not, post there or not. It was forced on no one.
ReplyDeleteDH;
ReplyDeleteNot 11217. Brooklynista.
Did you close out of everything and then try it, DIBS?
ReplyDeleteIs there a quisling amongst the plusas?
ReplyDeleteI think BHI made up an uber-WASP persona, which he could use to parody those parts of WASPdom that he finds uncomfortable. I enjoyed his posts a lot, they were extremely witty and self deprecating. Underneath it all were some astute social criticisms.
ReplyDeleteDIBS, maybe click "sign in" somewhere in the top right?
ReplyDeleteCobble, gay WASPS will make fun of themselves that way.
ReplyDeleteLMFAO @ "lawless" what a toolbag. it's the internet. there ARE NO LAWS ON THE FUCKING INTERNET! i hope a tornado comes and swoops up his precious little bedbug and fartisinal food market.
ReplyDelete*rob*
roger that, benson
ReplyDeletedh
It was very funny, and I bet some make fun of it that way, but it was obvious parody, to me. I can mock my people easily and do!
ReplyDeleteI had the preppiest / waspiest experience ever on Tuesday. I went to the Brooks Bros flagship store on Madison and 44th. Every guy in there looked like he woke up in Greenwich, played tennis, got just enough of a tan, and would suck his own dick in exchange for tickets to the Yale / Harvard game.
ReplyDeleteI like BHI and think he's real. If he's not real then shame on me for falling for it.
ReplyDeletelogged out
ReplyDeletestill not working
you can probably see two of my avatars up on the upper right now
Oh and while I was there I got a couple of suits that will go well with brown shoes. I've never worn brown shoes with a suit before. It's a very different look.
ReplyDeleteI fall for wasps who wear those golf pants made up of blue, yellow, red and green squares.
ReplyDeleteI fall for wasps who wear those golf pants made up of blue, yellow, red and green squares.
ReplyDeleteYou mean, plaid?
MM, do you not think BHI is the sockpuppet of a regular post, one who gleefully enjoyed the demise of the OT?
ReplyDeleteInterestingly, he enjoyed posting with us so much for the past week, and yet he's not here but posting over there still. And, it's not like I didn't post the link to the pub a dozen times yesterday.
lechacal, I wear blue suits with brown shoes. You need a matching belt too.
ReplyDeleteGet the shoes at Allen Edmunds, the best
You need a matching belt too.
ReplyDeleteAND a matching murse.
Unless you want that sleazy Italian/Eurotrash look with other brands
ReplyDeleteI've been into BBs, it's OVERWHELMING. I can't take it in there. It's like the world has been literally white-washed of any culture whatsoever except for white people as lech described. A lot of country clubs I've been to are like that, too. It makes me uncomfortable, I can't relax in those places.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Allen Edmunds? If a pair of shoes is hundreds of bucks I'm not interested.
ReplyDeleteNo- not plaid. they are actually squares of different colored fabric pieced together.
ReplyDelete"I fall for wasps who wear those golf pants made up of blue, yellow, red and green squares"
ReplyDeleteMany years ago I worked with a woman who called those "Jackass pants"
i had to pick something up for my boss at that brooks brothers store on 44th. that store made me feel extremely poor and extremely grimey and i felt like they were following me around thinking i was gonna shoplift.
ReplyDelete*rob*
And who were those fake horrible people crownmolding, and butterfu?
ReplyDeleteThe only really disappointing part of the OT episode is that it will be difficult to recruit new PLUSAs over here. While I think it’s wonderful that we have another place to play, part of the fun in the OT was when newbies arrived and joined in. And that was facilitated by having a “professional” albeit imperfect blog with good readership, a brand name, a main page with varied stories, a Forum, etc. etc. Not sure how we get new blood over here. Thoughts?
ReplyDelete- Biff
Church's for shoes. That is all.
ReplyDeletethese?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.intheholegolf.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ITHG&Product_Code=LMGPRASP&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Shopping&zmam=66642684&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=LMGPRASP
You fall for clowns?
No, I think she means actual squares. I've seen those. Mock worthy.
ReplyDeleteIt's at the corner of 55th & Madison. They have a few other shops but not sure where
ReplyDeleteThey are over $100. You can't get nice shoes for under $100. Anyone with any class will know that they are cheap shoes. Besides, you can resole them almost an unlimited number of times.
But go ahead, look like rob if you want to.
I bought stuff in BB at one time in my life, long long ago. It is so lacking in style for women's clothes, it is pathetic. People who wear that stuff seem like cartoon characters. It never changes. For men's clothes, that's the point.
ReplyDeleteI just found where I can look up the stats on pageviews and stuff. There have been 2 pageviews from Turkey and one each from the Phillipines and Pakistan.
ReplyDeleteBoyfriends of yours DIBS?
Biff, how about a new website that is about goings on in Brooklyn? Clearly it would attract brooklynites?
ReplyDeletei just assumed bhi was expert texpert
ReplyDeletedh
im SURE the unpaid interns who used to have to monitor the OT are now told to create ghostnics.
ReplyDelete*rob*
I dunno, Biff, it's a good question. Hard to attract attention from exile.
ReplyDelete"part of the fun in the OT was when newbies arrived and joined in"
ReplyDeleteAgreed. But, supposedly we weren't terribly welcoming to newbies, for which I blame cobble, Snappy and bxgrl for being tardy with the tiaras.
I suppose we can make occasional What-like forays into various threads, posting links to the pub, and inviting people to join us here.
oh dear - just realised that you can all see my (supposedly anonymous) blog if I post under my google account....
ReplyDeleteGreat point biff- this is a blog after all. Lech, and others he gives permission, can post threads. But it is also a great point that you made about the fun of newbies. So many people seem to have felt the OT was a closed club and that was the furthest thing from the truth.
ReplyDeleteThese shoes...they are what I have...$325
ReplyDeletehttp://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/product_6478273_1_40000000001_-1?categoryId=123802&top_category=120552
I'm a newbie. I followed the plusas from brownstoner but no one has acknowledged me yet.
ReplyDelete-plusa lover
Cobble;
ReplyDeleteIt seems that you have not been to BB for a long time. While there are certainly the arch-typical WASP's that Lech describes, about 50% of their sales people these days are non-white. I buy most of my clothes there, and speak from experience.
$325 is too much for me. That money is better invested in a college account for my kids.
ReplyDeletequote:
ReplyDeleteBut go ahead, look like rob if you want to.
people who try to impress others via their wardrobe are tacky. and sometimes it's more beneficial in this world to look poor.
*rob*
Welcome "plusa lover"
ReplyDeleteTell us more about yourself
Benson who said black people can't be WASPS? Except maybe they would be BASPs? The sales guy I had was crazy preppy and he was black.
ReplyDeletelechacal..they'll never get into a good school if you show up looking like rob
ReplyDeleteDH, other than the obsession with Brooklyn Heights, BHI really isn't ET's style IMO. Besides, I've said it before, though I was proven wrong, but I really believe her last blogicide was her last blogicide.
ReplyDeleteLech;
ReplyDeleteI know the BASP of which you speak. He's been at that store for like forever! He out-wasp's most wasp's!
OMG...when I worked at US Trust there was the WASPIEST black guy you could ever imagine. he was also young and drop dead gorgeous!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHe had some incredibly WASPY name too
anon- yes. Manly men like that :)
ReplyDeleteNOT!!!!!!
Chicken- you need to change your blog permissions. Check your dashboard.
CGar- I take full responsibility for the lack of tiaras. I worked my fingers to the bone creating wire works of heart and my shop was overwhelmed. Was I thanked? Did I get drinks? Did someone give me a satin sash for my evening gown? No.
Welcome, PLUSA lover!
ReplyDeleteJackal - don't skimp on your shoes mate!
That's fine DIBS, I never got into a good school either yet I'm way ahead of most ivy league grads I know.
ReplyDeleteWelcome PLUSA Lover! cobble, finish unpacking your damn desk already so you can give PL a manual, and bxgrl, for God sake, unpack the supply closet and give PL a tiara. Sheesh.
ReplyDeletebxgrl, too much hassle - I'll just have to live with another 50 people in the world knowing who I am.
ReplyDelete"about 50% of their sales people these days are non-white."
ReplyDeleteI think that says it all. So are all the help at a lot of country clubs.
Piss off, benson.
Hi Plusa lover! Gimme a moment, I'm still unpacking my desk. ; )
ReplyDeleteBenson, you're thinking of an older guy who walks like his right leg hurts him? Wicked preppy. Also one of the best suit salesmen I've ever had. Immediatley tells you which of their suit lines will fit your frame well, and he's totally spot on.
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